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Old 09-28-2013, 06:13 PM   #1
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Lost keys

What can I do? I only ever had 1 set and now they are missing after months of my car siting.

95 z28. Can the dealer get me a key?
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If you have the original tabs with the key code the dealer can help you otherwise you need to find a good lock smith
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Hopefully I can just find them then.

I read online that the dealer can call gm with the vin and get the info to make one. That true?
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Yes this is true, When you go have your DL and title or registration as you will have to prove ownership of car. From there they can look up key code and VATS code and cut you a new key . You don't have to worry about any relearn. if the code is correct it will start and run.
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They can do the door key as well.
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They can do that without having the car there? How can they cut a key like that? Just curious
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Usually you can just bring the title in. At least in my experience.
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They can do that without having the car there? How can they cut a key like that? Just curious
They enter a numerical code into the key cutting machine.

Any certified mobile locksmith should be able to make both keys.
They also have the ability to get the info by using the VIN.
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Yes this is true, When you go have your DL and title or registration as you will have to prove ownership of car. From there they can look up key code and VATS code and cut you a new key . You don't have to worry about any relearn. if the code is correct it will start and run.
As long as the battery has been connected and charged the entire time.
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Found it!!!!!

But thanks everyone, the info is great to know.

Why is it when I try and measure resistance of my keys, my multimeter just keeps going down. It won't stay at one reading.
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Found it!!!!! But thanks everyone, the info is great to know. Why is it when I try and measure resistance of my keys, my multimeter just keeps going down. It won't stay at one reading.
Are your fingers touching the probes at all?
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The VATS system is not as temperamental as passkey III or Passlock. The value of the chip is stored in non volatile memory ( witch means it does not forget when the power is removed). You can disconnect and reconnect the battery as much as you want as long as the key is in the OFF position.
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Go to the a GM dealership bring the vin and owners card and drivers license and $35

They will make a set for you
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The VATS system is not as temperamental as passkey III or Passlock. The value of the chip is stored in non volatile memory ( witch means it does not forget when the power is removed). You can disconnect and reconnect the battery as much as you want as long as the key is in the OFF position.
Then why is there a published relearn procedure for VATS?
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Car companies generally only keep those records for 10 years. I had this issue with a 2000 windstar in like 2011 and they said they just got lucky and it's key code was still in there data base.

Like others said ford required proof of ownership and license and vin you name it. Then they cut me a dummy key to try and it worked. However it still needed to be brought to ford to have a PATS key flashed or whatever they do.

Its my understanding on vats and passkeyII when the decoder box or BCM is new it codes to whatever key is used but if those are the old parts you must use an interpreter or just try all 15 codes.
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