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Old 05-19-2010, 10:51 AM   #1
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T56 swap?

95 z28 and biggest regret was buying an automatic... i want to do a t56 swap and was looking for someone who has done this swap and what it all consisted of and how difficult this was... im not the most experienced wrench but i do like to work on my own vehicles till i need help haha so i was just seeing if someone in my position could do this swap
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95 z28 and biggest regret was buying an automatic... i want to do a t56 swap and was looking for someone who has done this swap and what it all consisted of and how difficult this was... im not the most experienced wrench but i do like to work on my own vehicles till i need help haha so i was just seeing if someone in my position could do this swap

please, use the search feature, its there for a reason... many people have done the swap. not necessarily on the V8, but Auto to manual. You will need everything related to the manual Tranny.

This should have everything you want to know.
M6 to A4 and A4 to M6 Conversion info requested - LS1TECH
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I've been doing some research myself. Something to think about as well and it depends on your rearend and what you want to accomplish with the car. I would look at a built Tremec T-5 Transmission. If your like me and have a 2.73 rearend 6th gear isn't necessary. Also if your going to be drag racing the car it will be very rare that you get passed third gear. Tremec builds the T-5's to handle 600 to 700 ftlbs of torgue so they can handle a decently built motor. Also the price for a built T-5 is half the price of a bone stock T-56. A built T-5 starts around $1,200 and a bone stock T-56 starts at $2,500. Just some things to think about. The only thing you will have to consider is having the proper spline input and output put in when the T-5 is built. All manual fourth gen's have T-5's behind there V-6's as stock just for reference that they do fit in the car. Also for reference a stock T-5 won't handle the torque of the V8 for long I think they are built for about 200ftlbs or 250ftlbs max. That's why built is the way to go (but I'm sure you know that already).
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I just did the swap back in september. My auto went out so I went strait with the t56. I had to buy a flywheel, clutch, t56, cross member, master and slave cylinder for clutch, and a brake+clutch pedal assembly. My entire conversion costed me a total of $1200. The biggest pain in the ass with this conversion is drilling the hole in the firewall for your clutch cylinder to go. In order to get the transmission bolted up to the engine, i had to cut my exhaust off at the end of my headers because my y-pipe was majorly in the way. That may not be a problem for you, but it was for me.

Conversion Process (for me):
1. Buy a flywheel, clutch, t56, cross member, master and slave cylinder for clutch, and a brake+clutch pedal assembly from another similar car.

2. Remove Auto transmission by unbolting cooling lines from radiator, disconnecting the 2 electronic connections to the transmission. After that, unbolt the driveshaft and remove it. Then remove the auto transmission.

3. Unbolt or cut off exhaust at a location where it will not interfere with the t56 install or interfere with welding it back up.

4. Bolt on flywheel, then clutch, (using alignment tool or extra input shaft) then bolt on transmission. After that, you can throw on the t56 cross member and put your original driveshaft back in. and yes, the auto driveshaft does work.

5. Remove the brake master cylinder and brake booster so you can drill the hole (bottom hole) in the firewall for the clutch master cylinder to sit. Be sure to make this hole perfect in size and position because when the clutch pedal is compressed, it has to push the rod of the master cylinder directly in. just use your geometry skills.

6. Bolt clutch master cylinder up to firewall. Then bolt brake+clutch pedal assembly in place. This a simple bolt in process. no cutting or drilling for this to go in.

7. Bolt on slave cylinder to transmission.

8. Cut your speedometer plug that went to your auto trans off. Then use the t56's speedo plug and wire it to your existing wires. And you are done. Take it for a spin. Just make sure everything is torqued down to t56 camaro specs.

Theres not that much to do. Just a couple of days to do it. Its worth it in the end.
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Oh and be sure you dont buy the ls1 t56 because its input shaft is different in length and shape and its bell housing is different. So you HAVE to have the lt1 t56. Unless you want to swap the ls1 parts for the lt1 parts.
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I was always told that in the long run sell your car and buy a 5 speed, i would love to have one in my car!!!!
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I was always told that in the long run sell your car and buy a 5 speed, i would love to have one in my car!!!!
who told you that??

If you can find the tranny, its alot better to just switch it over.
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is the pedal assembly the same 93-02??
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is the pedal assembly the same 93-02??

I believe the 93-02 V8 and 93-99 V6 pedals are. But the 99-02 V6 pedals are DBW.
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What parts are different on the LT1 as to the LS1?
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Dbw ?
drive by wire

instead of a cable connected from the pedal to the TB, there is a sensor that electronicly relays the throttle postion.
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RangersLTW is correct, however, I successfully installed teh DBW pedals in my car. you have to take teh gas pedal off the bracket (angle grinder-2 minutes) for non-dbw, then bolt it on to the studs on the Brake booster as 2 pieces rather than welding it back together.

TBH, I'd recommend that, just because you don't need to dick around with threading the gas pedal over the steering column with the brake and clutch pedals attached. it was hard enough getting them in as separate pieces.
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