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Old 09-17-2013, 09:23 PM   #1
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Re: Replacement tires for IROC

I have a 1987 IROC 5.7 and need to replace the tires, does anyone have a favorite brand of tires that have shown good performance? I want to stay with the recommended 16" tires
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Overall, Michelins are top notch. As a Tire Technician and asking around, that's the best info I've gotten. Also I looked at their DOT ratings compared to the rest of the tires we carry and they are the best. Best treadwear of all we carry. And AA for traction which is highest rating and A rating for temperature which is also the highest. From what I've experienced, Goodyears have the highest "return to manufacturer" rate for so many defects. But they're decent if you get some nom defective ones.
Edit: of course if you want some aggressive tires for racing, Nitto is a great brand to check out. Also for street tires, Mastercraft are really good. Just below Michelin.
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Overall, Michelins are top notch. As a Tire Technician and asking around, that's the best info I've gotten. Also I looked at their DOT ratings compared to the rest of the tires we carry and they are the best. Best treadwear of all we carry. And AA for traction which is highest rating and A rating for temperature which is also the highest. From what I've experienced, Goodyears have the highest "return to manufacturer" rate for so many defects. But they're decent if you get some nom defective ones.
Edit: of course if you want some aggressive tires for racing, Nitto is a great brand to check out. Also for street tires, Mastercraft are really good. Just below Michelin.
Agreed. Also on top of defects, I dont like how my Goodyears grip anyway. I've had tires on with less tread left that grip better in the rain (and snow).

Edit: My old tires were dunlops.
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I personally like Michelin, but I've also used BF Goodrich and really liked them too. I'm not sure how the ratings compare to other brands.
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I personally like Michelin, but I've also used BF Goodrich and really liked them too. I'm not sure how the ratings compare to other brands.
Yeah BFGoodrich is also a good one. Bridgestone as well. They're are plenty of good brands out there. But from what I've experienced and out of what we carry, Michelin is on top, Mastercraft is second, only because it's treadwear isn't quite as good, and Goodyear has lost it's touch over the years. They used to be pretty good.
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1) Do you ever drive your car in the rain/snow?
2) When you drive it in the rain, do you normally drive carefully?
3) How many miles do you expect to get out of a set of tires?
4) Do you rotate your tires?

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Yeah BFGoodrich is also a good one. Bridgestone as well. They're are plenty of good brands out there. But from what I've experienced and out of what we carry, Michelin is on top, Mastercraft is second, only because it's treadwear isn't quite as good, and Goodyear has lost it's touch over the years. They used to be pretty good.
Mastercraft??? Second? BFGoodrich? Bridgestone? Good?!?!?
HAHAHA.
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1) Do you ever drive your car in the rain/snow?
2) When you drive it in the rain, do you normally drive carefully?
3) How many miles do you expect to get out of a set of tires?
4) Do you rotate your tires?

Mastercraft??? Second? BFGoodrich? Bridgestone? Good?!?!?
HAHAHA.
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Yeah, I only do tires for a living, what the **** do I know
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I liked riken raptors when they were on my 97 camaro. Liked them way better then the sumitomo's that are on it now. They had great wet weather driving, seemed to have excellent traction, my v6 couldn't break them loose.
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Overall, Michelins are top notch. As a Tire Technician and asking around, that's the best info I've gotten. Also I looked at their DOT ratings compared to the rest of the tires we carry and they are the best. Best treadwear of all we carry. And AA for traction which is highest rating and A rating for temperature which is also the highest. From what I've experienced, Goodyears have the highest "return to manufacturer" rate for so many defects. But they're decent if you get some nom defective ones.
Edit: of course if you want some aggressive tires for racing, Nitto is a great brand to check out. Also for street tires, Mastercraft are really good. Just below Michelin.
I've been considering some BF Goodrich Comp-2s for my '99. After this i might take a more serious look at Michelins though. As a guy who knows nothing more than the marketing on tires (commercials, online reviews etc.) it's nice to hear from someone in the business.
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Yeah, I only do tires for a living, what the **** do I know
I know Mastercraft has ZERO performance tires in their lineup and I personally would NEVER recommend them to an F-body owner. F-body suspensions aren't the greatest and the weight is a big disadvantage. Recommending Mastercraft tires to somebody looking for traction is a pretty big mistake. FWIW, I got offered a job as a tire shop manager at one of the ma and pa shops here, on the spot, after visiting the first time and having a half hour conversation about tires, but what do I know, I'm just a person on the internet who races his car for fun. Don't need to shit up this guys thread though, just wanted to voice my disdain for certain tire lineups when paired with F-bodies, mainly about Mastercraft.

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I liked riken raptors when they were on my 97 camaro. Liked them way better then the sumitomo's that are on it now. They had great wet weather driving, seemed to have excellent traction, my v6 couldn't break them loose.
I had 245/50/16 Riken Raptors on my '99 V6 Firebird. Could easily break 'em loose from a dig and were not safe in the rain/wet compared to many all-seasons. They were pretty grippy in dry corners, though, for 245/50/16s. My best 60' with them was not that great, IIRC. Like, 2.1 or something. I got it down to 1.9 by switching to 275/40/17s. Got the 1.9 down to 1.8 by switching the engine to an LS1 and using Nitto 555R tires, NT05 tires (occasionally), and a consistent 1.8 with some 255/50/16 MT ET Street Radials.
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Thanks! for the good information on the best tires, I truly appreciate the feedback, I'm going with the Michelin tires.
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Overall, Michelins are top notch. As a Tire Technician and asking around, that's the best info I've gotten. Also I looked at their DOT ratings compared to the rest of the tires we carry and they are the best. Best treadwear of all we carry. And AA for traction which is highest rating and A rating for temperature which is also the highest. From what I've experienced, Goodyears have the highest "return to manufacturer" rate for so many defects. But they're decent if you get some nom defective ones.
Edit: of course if you want some aggressive tires for racing, Nitto is a great brand to check out. Also for street tires, Mastercraft are really good. Just below Michelin.
HotRodd, Thanks! Once again...I truly appreciate your insight, you've been a trusted source and have helped me keep my IROC looking good, Thanks! Again, I'm getting my Michelins installed in the morning.
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Agreed. Also on top of defects, I dont like how my Goodyears grip anyway. I've had tires on with less tread left that grip better in the rain (and snow).

Edit: My old tires were dunlops.
Purple94 Thanks for your feedback as well, much appreciated!
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I personally like Michelin, but I've also used BF Goodrich and really liked them too. I'm not sure how the ratings compare to other brands.
383 Stroker, much appreciated!
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I liked riken raptors when they were on my 97 camaro. Liked them way better then the sumitomo's that are on it now. They had great wet weather driving, seemed to have excellent traction, my v6 couldn't break them loose.
Riken Raptors is what I run. (5 years now) 275/40ZR/17. And are made by Michelin.
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HotRodd, Thanks! Once again...I truly appreciate your insight, you've been a trusted source and have helped me keep my IROC looking good, Thanks! Again, I'm getting my Michelins installed in the morning.
Good choice and no problem. I would recommend the Michelin Pilot Sports. The pilot mx mvm4 are ok but the Pilot Sports, from what we carry by Michelin, are the best. We put them on all the Supercars that come in, Lamborghinis and such.
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Good choice and no problem. I would recommend the Michelin Pilot Sports. The pilot mx mvm4 are ok but the Pilot Sports, from what we carry by Michelin, are the best. We put them on all the Supercars that come in, Lamborghinis and such.
I'm glad I checked back, before I purchased, so I had them get the Pilot Sports, have to wait until tomorrow, they have to get them from another location...Thanks! again.
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I'm glad I checked back, before I purchased, so I had them get the Pilot Sports, have to wait until tomorrow, they have to get them from another location...Thanks! again.
They'll run a little over $800+ installed, I can't wait to get them on...1 more day!
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They'll run a little over $800+ installed, I can't wait to get them on...1 more day!
Awesome! I'm glad you checked as well. The Pilot Sports so far are the best I've seen.
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Awesome! I'm glad you checked as well. The Pilot Sports so far are the best I've seen.
Best at what? Certainly not drag racing, autocrossing, road racing, or spirited driving...

Also, OP never answered my questions or acknowledged that I even provided input. Wow.
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