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Old 06-22-2009, 11:26 AM   #1
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Converting 2nd gen to 4spd

Does this reduce value if the car isn't numbers matching? I have an engine/trans out of a Firebird that's in rough shape and I've found another car that has a much better body than mine. If I convert it to the 4spd will I be making a mistake when I go to sell the car or is the 4spd desireable enough that people don't really care if it was original?

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Old 06-22-2009, 11:46 AM   #2
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Depends on the buyer. Most of the time, I'd think numbers matching is a great selling point.
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Old 06-22-2009, 03:10 PM   #3
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Here's a quote from my buddy who is familiar with 2nd gens:

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there are people that want a 4 speed car but will not pay extra for a non numbers matching one, if it is an original numbers matching it will sell for more, than regular value, most anything you do will increase the value to a early second gen fbody but.... you may not see a return on that if you are going for a clone or non numbers matching car
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:03 AM   #4
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Numbers matching will alwys bring more money. But if you want a four speed do it and keep the original to go with the car.
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I would buy it if it was a 4 speed, and pay more money to boot
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I think if it's done correctly, and looks correct, then it will increase the value. Lots more demand for a 4 spd. car than an automatic.
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I converted my turbo T/A from the factory mandated TH350 to a Super T-10 and it's now 1 of 5. I think it increased the value :P
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How difficult is it to convert an automatic car to a 4-speed. I've always wanted a manual, but because of funds I caved in and got an automatic. tranny is out of my car and the interior is mostly stripped..
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That all depends on the skill level of the person doing the job. A few things to consider are if your engine is set up for auto or manual. What I mean is the flywheel and flexplates are different. Next is the drive shaft, Then theres the clutch pedal assembly and hardware. Cutting holes in the tunnel for the shifter,and firewall and floor for the clutch levers, cross members may need to be changed as well.
Asking how difficult it is, well frankly its like asking how longs a piece of string.
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Well I have a 350 with a 4 speed but my car is set up for an automatic. it is currently gutted. I have a th350 i was gonna put on my motor but if i can make the care set for a manual, i would much rather do that.
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Well I have a 350 with a 4 speed but my car is set up for an automatic. it is currently gutted. I have a th350 i was gonna put on my motor but if i can make the care set for a manual, i would much rather do that.
It is a matter of changing out the pedals, getting the correct z bar and linkage and bolting it to the frame, cutting a hole in the tunnel. Auto crossmember is also correct, most use a th400 tailshaft. Not to hard, especially if your car is apart
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It is a matter of changing out the pedals, getting the correct z bar and linkage and bolting it to the frame, cutting a hole in the tunnel. Auto crossmember is also correct, most use a th400 tailshaft. Not to hard, especially if your car is apart

Sounds very do-able. Thanks
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Couple things here... yes the car is worth more being numbers matching. Want to see a good example of this in action check out the Mecum muscle car auctions.

You see customs go for 24k and OEM equipt for 56k.

Second, what 4 speed is it? When I contemplated the same thing for my 2nd gen I was warned off the saginaw 4 speed for it not being able to stand up to power.

The conversion isn't that difficult though.
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