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Old 07-09-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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Question A bad habit??

don't know if it's a bad thing but when i,m in the city and i stop for red lights,as long as the ground is level i'll pop it into N and let go of the brake,and pop it back in when green...anyone else do this?
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GM recommends doing this in the T56, It's in my cars handbook. Not foot off the brake, but to put in neutral with clutch out. Auto wouldn't matter I guess.
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GM recommends doing this in the T56, It's in my cars handbook. Not foot off the brake, but to put in neutral with clutch out. Auto wouldn't matter I guess.
I have heard this also, I think its supposed to reduce wear on the pilot bushing.
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mine is the 3.8L,and i have dual exh and i like the way it sounds when im idiling and feathering the gas lol
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I've always done that with my 6 speed T/A.
Probably part of the reason why the original clutch disk, master and slave cylinders are still in the car at 182k miles.
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I do that as well,

Like navy said I believe it leaves to less wear on the clutch.
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don't know if it's a bad thing but when i,m in the city and i stop for red lights,as long as the ground is level i'll pop it into N and let go of the brake,and pop it back in when green...anyone else do this?
I do this on occasion, depends on how long I'm going to be stopped though. If I think I'm going to be idling for more than 30 seconds I put it in N and shut my car off.
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Ur car should never remain in gear ( N ) it's better to put it in park . Or creep in drive leave ur self a gap. neutral causes heat build . Thus causing ur head gasket to warm up break down.
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Ur car should never remain in gear ( N ) it's better to put it in park . Or creep in drive leave ur self a gap. neutral causes heat build . Thus causing ur head gasket to warm up break down.
No. Your wrong.
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Op never mentioned do you have auto or manual?
Like Michael said ... Uh what?
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How I m wrong ? Tell me when ur ars is waiting at mc dons our car is in neatural running getting hot building heat cause the water pump is rotating ur engine plus trans aren't in gear to release pressure exhaust heat build up
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How I m wrong ? Tell me when ur ars is waiting at mc dons our car is in neatural running getting hot building heat cause the water pump is rotating ur engine plus trans aren't in gear to release pressure
And how does it cause a heat build up exactly? A transmission doesn't "release pressure". A transmission transfers power that stems directly from the crankshaft through the torque converter to the trans to the driveshaft to the rear to the wheels. When you put a transmission in neutral, you completely terminate the powerflow and the output shaft is free to spin, allowing the car to roll. There is no heat buildup as nothing is really going on in the transmission. Heat is built up through work. When nothing is applying, or holding, or working in the trans, less heat is built. The torque converter is still spinning as well, so nothing that directly connects the engine to the transmission is changed as well when shifting to neutral. It's the complete opposite of what you said it was. That's how you are wrong.
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I know some people aren't open to new education. It's not like I pulled my experience out from a hat. I gave a perfect scenario to support it. Yet still no ones explained why does the car get hotter in neutral then in running gear! Other then my thoughts nothing. Thanks snlp
Oh you mean the car. Simple. Because when the car is stopped the water pump and fan slow down. It will do the regardless if you're in park, neutral or D. Neutral itself does not affect it. Honestly, what I would do in that scenario is put the car in park or neutral and rev it slightly. Cars generally always rise in temperature when not moving, especially in this weather. If yours is getting bad, check your thermostat or for coolant leaks.
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Oh you mean the car. Simple. Because when the car is stopped the water pump and fan slow down. It will do the regardless if you're in park, neutral or D. Neutral itself does not affect it. Honestly, what I would do in that scenario is put the car in park or neutral and rev it slightly. Cars generally always rise in temperature when not moving, especially in this weather. If yours is getting bad, check your thermostat or for coolant leaks.
This, exactly. I thought it was common knowledge. With no air being blown into the engine bay, of course it's going to get hot. I guess those who don't understand are the same that think when a car is overheating due to a coolant leak, they should drive slower on the way to the mechanic. When in reality, you want to pick up speed so the fans will kick in, or at the very least, you get more air flow to the bay to cool things down.
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Question was answered I'm locking this thread.
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I'm going to reopen this just because I'm genuinely curious how many people do this. I removed all the shit posts so it's back on topic. If people start throwing mud again then I will ban you, this is your warning!
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In an auto I leave it in drive with my foot on the brake, but a manual I put it in neutral and let my foot off the clutch. Unless its a short light or know I'm about to go, I leave my foot on the clutch and in gear.
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In an auto I leave it in drive with my foot on the brake, but a manual I put it in neutral and let my foot off the clutch. Unless its a short light or know I'm about to go, I leave my foot on the clutch and in gear.
Same here, I just heard it was better.
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In an auto I leave it in drive with my foot on the brake, but a manual I put it in neutral and let my foot off the clutch. Unless its a short light or know I'm about to go, I leave my foot on the clutch and in gear.
^I also do this
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