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Old 06-06-2011, 10:08 PM   #1
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Thinking about suspension

So the wheels made my car look like a 4x4


I have no clue about anything suspension-wise. How do I lower the gal? Just some springs? Or something else? How much am I looking to spend?
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koni shocks and strano springs.
about 1500 with that setup done correctly.
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also wanna look into LCA relocation brackets adjustable PHB, so that you keep the various angles the same.

without LCA relocators(or adjustable LCAs), rear wheels will move backwards in the wheelwell.
w/o PHB, axle will shift to the driver's side.
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also wanna look into LCA relocation brackets adjustable PHB, so that you keep the various angles the same.

without LCA relocators(or adjustable LCAs), rear wheels will move backwards in the wheelwell.
w/o PHB, axle will shift to the driver's side.
ya, and my price figures those in. also... the pan hard bar centers the Rear axle. just FYI
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ugh.....lol! With where my money is going right now, wanted wheels, and now hail damage. Sounds like doing it the right way, may have to wait till next summer. Nothing lower than $1500? Well you said the 'right' way. So probably not then.
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the pan hard bar centers the Rear axle. just FYI
hence the "w/o it..." as in if you don't get an adjustable one, it'll get uncentered.
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ugh.....lol! With where my money is going right now, wanted wheels, and now hail damage. Sounds like doing it the right way, may have to wait till next summer. Nothing lower than $1500? Well you said the 'right' way. So probably not then.
you could do cheaper springs/shocks, but from what i've heard (not from personal experiance) the koni/Strano combo works the best. and if you find used LCA's, LCA relocation brackets, and a PHB, that price goes down.
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Its not the only way. You could get a set of KYB AGX shocks and BMR lowering springs for less than 1k (both great products) and still be just fine. Koni/Strano is just the most commonly recommended and most expensive setup but there are plenty of other options out there. You don't absolutely NEED a panhard bar or LCA relocation brackets but they are recommended.
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Buy used. You'll save a ton of cash.
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This is what I came with for new stuff. I will keep my eyes out for used stuff obviously.

KYB AGX struts $413 for all 4, shipped on ebay new

BMR lowering springs $241 shipped on summit new

UMI Adjustable PHB $138 shipped on summit new

Spohn LCA relocation brackets $70 shipped on lmperformance new

$862 for everything, and my buddy is able to install all of this for 200-250, he has a welder and built a 813rwhp mustang. (I'm not doing this myself) So sounds like $1100 installed. MAYBE by the end of the summer/fall.
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KYB AGX struts
BMR lowering springs (may want to look into Strano springs - they may not be much more)
Bolt-in Relocation Brackets (since weld-in's suck to install properly)
UMI or BMR on-car adjustable poly/poly panhard bar (since you have rubbing issues now)
UMI or BMR on-car adjustable poly/poly rear lower control arms (to center the rear end after the relocation brackets change the forward-rear location of the axle in the wheel well)
Bolt-in Relocation Brackets (Founders, J&M, Spohn, UMI, etc.)
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What about the KYB GR-2? They seem to be half the price?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KYB-4...s#ht_500wt_976


Why do I need new struts? I understand needing springs, LCA relocation and the adjustable PHB.
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The GR-2s are just a stock replacement type of shock. The AGXs are made for lowered cars and are adjustable. You need shocks because stock ones wont be able to handle lowering springs. The ride will be awful and you will be bottoming out all the time.
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