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Old 04-28-2015, 05:07 PM   #1
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Newer cars and fidgety controls

Do you notice in some newer model cars, especially like Toyotas, all the controls are very jumpy?

I took my girlfriend's Rav to work the last couple of days because of the rain. Got a cold air intake about 6" off the ground, so puddles are not my friend! But when I'm driving it, I notice if I just give a little adjustment to the steering, the power steering kicks in a moment later and jerks the car to the side. At least compared to my truck & Camaro, both older. Also, the accelerator and the brakes do the same thing. The brakes go from almost no pressure to jerking me forward in my seat with just a slight press.

Is some of this the fly-by-wire systems manufacturers are starting to use? Does this account for SUV rollovers? lol. Just curious if other people notice this, too. Makes me want to go cruise around in my Camaro so I don't get used to the Toyota!
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Old vs new technology. Response time is much better the newer a vehicle is... generally.

I personally love steering that's super sensitive. I hated that you basically needed to turn the steering wheel in an Fbody like you're driving a bus.

Some brake/accelerator pedals do take some getting used to though. I personally don't like my wife's Scion tC's gas pedal. It almost seems to stick, so when you tap on it, the car "lunges"...sorta.

It is what it is. Nothing 'wrong' with newer vehicles.

Just makes me appreciate not driving an old Fbody anymore.
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Old vs new technology. Response time is much better the newer a vehicle is... generally.

I personally love steering that's super sensitive. I hated that you basically needed to turn the steering wheel in an Fbody like you're driving a bus.

Some brake/accelerator pedals do take some getting used to though. I personally don't like my wife's Scion tC's gas pedal. It almost seems to stick, so when you tap on it, the car "lunges"...sorta.

It is what it is. Nothing 'wrong' with newer vehicles.

Just makes me appreciate not driving an old Fbody anymore.
To Add to this, A Lot of newer cars have gone to Electronic Steering. This also makes a difference. As Superman said, new technology vs old. Also, a lot can effect brake performance besides technology..... Worn out parts. I bet if you were to replace ALL brake parts in an f-Body with new parts, the brakes would perform quite well. And I mean ALL new parts, brake booster and brake master cylinder, rotors and pads, calipers, brake lines with fresh fluid.


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Yup, Superman sums it up pretty well. My Roush has electronic steering you can adjust the feel of the wheel. I prefer having sharp and responsive steering though on long highway trips it's nice to dial it back to make a bit more comfortable for lane changes ect.
Though it does have some lag in the drive by wire throttle. Something that I'm surprised about but it is well documented in the 5.0s, and a tune straightens it right out.
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Newer cars and fidgety controls

Some cars I prefer electric power steering, while some cars I prefer traditional power steering and some cars I prefer no power steering lol. Like mentioned above, you just have to adapt to the car
But no matter what vehicle it is, I like a quick turning vehicle.

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Haha it sounds like I've been stuck driving my F-body too long! This was my first car, and my older sister had it before me. We used to call it "the tank" back in the day...
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Parents have a new Kia Optima Turbo with literally all of the uplevel options available. Has what feels like electric power steering and it is uncomfortably twitchy and it takes much more effort to keep the car pointed straight down the road in a smooth manner. Didn't look at the owners manual to see if it's adjustable.
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Some of the new stuff is nice, but some of it is like zex said, its twitchy.

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